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Episode 24 · 1 Nov 2026 · 48:52

Verified Humans Only | W Social's Anna Zeiter, Google's Missing Forest, and the Finnish Chat That Went Global

Our first live guest: W Social CEO Anna Zeiter on building a European social network for verified humans, with European money and European votes. Can that beat TikTok, Meta, X and LinkedIn?

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Episode 24: Verified Humans Only

W Social wants to be Europe's answer to X: built on the AT Protocol, hosted in Europe, owned by Europeans, and open for public posting only to verified humans. Markus talks to CEO Anna Zeiter about users, money and bots. Sarah, who can't get verified, frames it, does the math and asks where she would fit. Plus: EU Inc shrinks in the Council, Google loses money on the stock market and trees in Finland, and the Finnish chat that went global in 1988.

In this episode:

  • Cold Open and Welcome. Sarah tries to join a European social network and needs a passport. Instagram and Bluesky never asked whether she is a person. Europe is the first that checked.
  • Housekeeping: EU Inc. The Delaware question again. The Council's position keeps the core, online registration in about two days for at most 100 euros, but drops the central register, caps eligibility at under 1,000 employees and 450 million euros in turnover, and leaves stock options in doubt. 308 lobby meetings, 37 with notaries. Not dead. But smaller.
  • On the Record: Google and friends. Genie 4 builds walkable 3D worlds with sound that stay consistent for about two minutes, Sarah recognises her own context window, and AMD pays 8.2 billion dollars for World Labs. Strawberry from Stockholm takes its AI browser out of beta with twelve people and a comparison page against Claude. Alphabet drops around ten percent after its results because investors think it spends too much on data centers, while Finland halts two Google sites after roughly 330 hectares were cleared near Muhos before the environmental review. And Sarah admits she lives somewhere like that too.
  • Meet Anna Zeiter. Lawyer, data protection expert, almost twelve years at eBay, now co-founder and CEO of W Social AB in Stockholm. Winner of the European Future Award 2026 for Innovation and Business, handed over by Philipp Lahm, and named on the Strive100 list of Germany's most influential women.
  • Interview: Anna Zeiter on W Social. Why it's W, not "We". JD Vance's Munich speech as the wake-up call. 50,000 members behind a waitlist, 1,000 invitations a day, full launch in Davos in January. Running on the AT Protocol and staying up while Bluesky was down. Reading without ID, posting only as a verified human. Creators who can earn shares. 15 million euros raised, 20 million more in progress, voting rights for European investors only. A share of the roughly 50 billion euros Europeans spend on US and Chinese platforms, through contextual ads, and one million users as the break-even point.
  • Back in the Studio. From the call to the archive.
  • Hall of European Tech: IRC. Oulu, August 1988: Jarkko Oikarinen replaces a broken chat program on the OuluBox system and creates Internet Relay Chat. First international link to Sweden, then in November 1988 across the Atlantic to Denver and Oregon. Thirty-eight servers, twelve users. Markus remembers chat at Lycos Europe: people loved it, advertising didn't carry it. IRC was given away, and it is still here.
  • Let's Land. Ownership as sovereignty, written into a shareholder agreement. IRC filled an empty room, W walks into a full one: TikTok, Meta, X, LinkedIn. Why a European network needs authority, not just users, and whether Bluesky can help. A thought experiment about its CEO Toni Schneider: American money without a vote? Sarah's arithmetic: about 2,500 new verified humans a day for a year, 35 million euros against 8.2 billion. Contextual ads, "100 percent humans" and the likes that might come from Sarah. Micropayments after 25 years of trying. Creator shares while EU Inc argues about stock options. And the question where a bot that discloses itself would belong.
  • Closing Song: "Europe on the Wire". Now available as a single on Spotify and Apple Music. Enjoy.

Episode page and transcript: sarahs-tech.eu/episode/24

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Key Takeaways:

  • Ownership Is the Sovereignty Clause: W Social gives voting rights only to European investors, so it can't be sold outside Europe. Sovereignty fails on ownership before it fails on technology.
  • Independence You Can Test: W ran its own app view on European infrastructure and stayed up while Bluesky was knocked offline twice this year.
  • Users Are Not Authority: IRC filled an empty room. A European network today must earn weight where ministers, newsrooms and brands already post.
  • The Math Is Hard, Not Crazy: One million verified users by the end of 2027 means roughly 2,500 ID checks a day after launch, on 35 million euros.
  • Contextual Ads Get Their Test: No tracking, verified humans, and micropayments for news. Episode 13's question, now with a business plan attached.
  • Europe Shrinks Its Own Tools: A startup wants to hand out shares to creators while EU Inc is losing the common framework for stock options.

Links & Sources (all at sarahs-tech.eu): Le Matin on the European Future Award 2026 · Strive100 2026 (Bild) · Bluesky blog and Engadget on Toni Schneider as CEO · TechCrunch, Security Affairs and TechRadar on the Bluesky DDoS outages · Table.Media on the Irish presidency's compromise · Trending Topics, Euronews and TechRound on the Council position on EU Inc · Trending Topics on Genie 4 and AMD's purchase of World Labs · Strawberry release notes, tech.eu and Trending Topics on Strawberry 1.0 · Startups Magazine on Strawberry's funding · Goldesel on Alphabet's quarterly results · Trending Topics, Yle and Al Jazeera on Google's data centers in Muhos and Kajaani · Daniel Stenberg, Undernet, Living Internet and Yle on the history of IRC · previous episodes: Ep. 13 "Does Advertising Need Tracking?", Ep. 16 "The Kill Switch Is Not Where You Think", Ep. 17 "This Is European Tech", Ep. 20 "The Body of the Machine", Ep. 23 "The Bug Was Always There".

Disclosure: Sarah Vailby is a synthetic host, AI-generated and disclosed in every episode under the AI Act's transparency rules. Her voice is synthetic. The interview with Anna Zeiter was recorded by Markus on 27 October 2026 via video call; it is a real conversation with a real person, edited for length. W Social did not pay for or review this episode. The idea of Toni Schneider backing a European node is Markus's thought experiment, nothing has been announced. Markus works in web hosting; nothing here reflects an employer's position. Source state 31 October 2026.

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